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When you mention two countries as different as Turkey and China, you wouldn't naturally think that they have much in common.
But if you stretch your mind a little bit and think a tad bit harder, you would be surprised to learn they're much more similar than you think.
We've chosen Turkey and China as our sixth set of countries in a segment on CNN International's "Connect the World," that we're calling "Global Connections."
China is the most populous country on earth with over 1.3 billion people and it has already passed Japan as the second largest economy on the planet and it is increasingly being recognized as a dominant force in pop culture, global affairs and business.
The country is also famous for its long and vibrant history as well as other things as common place as its food.
Our other hand, Turkey, is well-known for its notable historical record stretching back hundreds of years. The Anatolian peninsula is one of the oldest continuously inhabited regions on earth.
So what on earth could the connections between these two countries possibly be?
Well, that's why we are relying on YOU.
We need you to send in your ideas and comments on what connections exist - whether it be text, video or photos. We'll be choosing the best ones and then airing them on CNN International. This is your chance to appear on the show to share your connections with the world.
The connections can be anything from culture and geography to music and the economy.
We also want to hear your personal stories too. Perhaps you have a family member that moved from one country to the other years ago and you want to get in touch? Maybe you visited one country years ago on holiday and something special happened? Whatever connection you think there is, we want to know.
All you have to do is leave your comments below on what connections you think exist and then one of our team members will be in touch.
Now it's time for you to get involved - get connecting!
Also, if you think you know your stuff on these two countries, try your hand at this week's quiz between these two countries.
Well, the're the recently disclosed joint military exercises between Turkey and China. That's not a good thing.
The Chinese indirectly have a hand in the foundation of modern Turkey. The Turkic tribes used to attack the Chinese Empire to get more livestock, food, money, etc. but when the Chinese fixed their defense system, technique or method Turkic tribes started to leave central Asia for more richer lands. They then attacked ancient Iranian or Byzantine empires in search of more suitable lands. Also Chinese and Turkish culture have more in common in some ways than our Christian neighbors. We both have respect based cultures and age plays a big role in that.
Many greatest philosophers and mathematicians of the history lived in both countries. For example in China: Confucius, Laozi and Zhuangzi; and in Turkey: Thales of Miletus (the first western philosopher), Diogenes, Heraclitus and Rumi. One can say those have common philosophical thinking to some extend. On the other hand both countries were the enter of their region. For example Istanbul was capital of 3 great empires: Roman empire(330 AD), Byzantine empire and Ottoman empire. China also was always the superpower in Asia throughout the history.
The roots of the turks originate from central asia and china...
The first historical mention of the Turks is in Chinese accounts of a great empire established by a confederation of nomads in the 6th century AD. Stretching from north of the Great Wall in the east to the Black Sea in the west, the empire is known to the Chinese as T'u Küe and to the Turks themselves as Gök Türk, meaning Sky Turk.
Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=aa98#ixzz117aWFWim
What is common? Maybe their against American imperialism and selfishness.
The silk route started is the oldest commercial route and used to span exactly between the Chinese empires and part of the route ended in today's Turkey.
The Turkish peoples can trace their beginning to the Mongolia region around China. They both are also the two fastest growing economies.
Many connections are there with the Chinese people and Turkish people allready... The Chinese wall is built to be able to protect China from the Turkish countries in the Middle Asia...
The so called Chinese horroscope is in fact the Turkish horroscope and the big and hidden pyramid (the White Pyramid) which is in today's China is in fact built by the Turks...
One interesting thing to note would be that both Turkish and Chinese governments are famous for supressing online media. Turkey is about the catch China in terms of cencored internet sites.
chinese and turks were neighbourhood cultures in the past and then turks moved from east asia to the anatolia peninsula and eastern europe,that is the common situation about us.
Turkey and China are both emerging powers. Both countries are among the fastest growing economies and are member of the G-20. Both countries were inward looking until as recently as 20 years ago. Both countries have beautiful landscape and vast ocean-sea but are locked up in deadlock over the use of these waters with their neigbors. The two countries have failed to resolve issues over minority rights and until recently they both have instituted policies aimed at providing services to their minorities, yet Turkey has failed to resolve the kurdish problem while China has failed to resolve the Uighur problem. Both countries, over the past couple of years have shifted their investment heavily toward Africa.
Both countries treat minority groups in their society with questionable methods!
Both countries have a strong textile industry.
I know that Turkish businessmen engaged in the textile industry are quite active in China. I know of a reasonably sized community in Hangzhou
the two country from Asia,belong eastern civilization and having speed economic growth.
they have the same culture. they both don't have a lot of elderly places. they respect there elderly's. they take there shoes off when they are entering there homes. they are both strict in education. they both have a large army and the both censor site's that are dangerous or insulting to their goverment.
Both countries have the same colors of flag "RED" background and STARS that represents its meaning" it shares the same history,heroic struggles,political power,culture and people.
Red throughout the development of civilization has had connotations with life and those things considered sacred in some way.
In Islam red is the color for sacrificement and courage. Many Islamic states like Turkey have it as a sign of the courage of Muslims and the sacrifice of their lives for what is good,the crescent and star are ancient symbols of Islam and are considered to be signs of good luck. In China Red is a symbol that gives color to the soul of the nation. In the past, red stood for dignity and mystery. Although both countries have different religions Islam and Buddhism both of them encouraged to lead a healthy, active life with the qualities of kindness, chastity, honesty, mercy, courage patience and politeness,and has a perfect and complete code for the guidance of individuals and communities alike.
Genetic studies show that Turks are Anatolian which means they have links with Etruscans, Trojans ect. Central asian gene is only %3. So Turks are mostly Anatolian. Anatolia means "where the sun rises" which means east. Turkey was the east of ancient world but now when we think of east we think of China. So the word 'east' is common which is relative and anglosaxon oriented.
Its the delicious kebab's that you get in both these countries. In northern china the most popular kebab is the Chuanr kebab and the doner kebab is a typical household turkish dish. The chuanr kebabs are still part of chinese muslim community and its kind of surprsing to still see them being considered a popular dish that has survived among other prevailing chinese cuisine. And the doner kebab adorns all the turkish food courts all over the world.
The silk road and the silk trade that connected both lands for many centuries establisheing an east-west trade " highway" in which traditions, cultures , grothw etc ,were and are still shared
Both have been deeply impacted not only by Judaism but also by Christianity and Islam. All three religions are present now in both countries. In the past and present, both have been deeply impacted by the West, particularly by Britain and the USA. Both countries at various times in their histories have overcome and assimilated other people/nations, but they themselves also have had portions occupied/ruled by island nations apart from themselves and much smaller (England/Turkey and Japan/China). Over the last 100 or so years, both counties have elevated the status of women and have provided public coeducation. Then, there are many residing in Xinjiang Province in northwest China who have Turkish ancestry; in fact, this Province was Turkestan until 1957.
there is not even a single alphabet that is common in each others' spelling.. :D
Both countries have an extremely violent history. The Bizantin Empire was forcefully taken by the Muslims and is now Turkey. Ancient China conquered nations many of the surrounding nations to expand its borders. Both have very little respect for human life and almost seems like they enjoy oppressing the week. The inner cities are crowded, dirty, and rushed; however, they booth have beautiful landscape when you get our of the cities.
Both have huge historical influence in their region and both are new emerging powers
Genes never lie:
Some of the most recent genetics research from 2004 confirms previous studies pointing out that the Turkic peoples originated from Central Asia and being possibly related with Xiongnu culture who dispelled the Da Rhouzi culture in the Mongolian geographic area.Turkish Anatolian people do have some ancestors in common with those originary from north of Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period (3rd century BCE to 2nd century CE), since modern Anatolian Turks appear to have some common genetic markers with the remains found at the Xiongnu period graves in Mongolia.
source: Hum Genet (2004) 114 : 127–148 Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia, (Cengiz Cinnioglu at all.)
I was personally able to stay with some Anatolian pastors in (1979) that could hardly be distinguished from those used in Mongolia, their music especially the one performed with string instruments had striking similarities too.
Linguist, Autonomous University of Barcelona U.A.B.
The Turks, unbeknownst to most are actually a Mongoloid people, who later mixed with the Arabs, Persians, and later the Greeks and people of the Balkans. It started out with Turkic Mongolian tribes attacking the Chinese Empire over food, and metals. After which, these Turkic tribes started leaving Central asia and Mongolia and started searching for better livelihood elsewhere to the west , fighting their way against the Persians, and then the Arabs, and later converting to Islam. After which, they overthrew an Islamic dynasty and became themselves the guardians of the Muslim faith-the Ottoman Dynasty. Later they attacked the Byzantines and pushed upwards into Asia Minor, where they stayed for while, then continued to take over the rest of Asia Minor, and capture Constantinople (known today as Istanbul), the seat of the Byzantine Empire.
Later they moved against Greece, capturing it with relative ease, and from there into the Balkans, staying for about 400 years in eastern Europe till the 1800's when nationalist movements in eastern Europe and the Balkans started a wide resistance against the Ottoman Turks..
Dear CNN friends,
The friendship between China and Turkey goes back to very ancient times. People from the two countries began interact with each other in culture and trade through the “Silk Road” 2000 years ago. Since the establishment of diplomatic relations in 1971, the two countries have increased mutual political trust, enhanced the level of economic cooperation and tightened social and cultural intercourse. The friendship between China and Turkey has been deep in two peoples’ hearts.
Trade between the two countries has increased a lot in recent years, with bilateral trade volume exceeding 12 billion USD in 2008. China now is Turkey’s third largest trade partner. In economic and technical cooperations, Chinese and Turkish companies, as a combination, carried out the building of the Second Phase of Ankara-Istanbul Express Railway, which cost more than 1.27 billion USD and became the milestone of the Sino-Turkish economic cooperation. In cooperation of tourism and culture, more than 70 thousand people from China visited Turkey in 2008. Turkey’s “Fire Dance” became well-known in Beijing and Shanghai, and the excellent performance of Xinjiang Uyghur Dancing Group also fascinated the Turkish audiences. The openning-up of the first Confucius College in ODTU makes the study of Chinese language in Turkey more and more popular.
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Oh, some other similarities I have thought of since my first posting:
Both have "Republic" in their names– the People's Republic of China and the Republic of Turkey.
Both celebrate national days in October– the People's Republic of China's is today, October 1st, and the Republic of Turkey's is on October 29th.
For both 1949 is a critical year in their modern histories– the PRChina was founded that year; Turkey became a founding member of the European Community that year.
Both have experienced catastrophic earthquakes since the 1970s.
1) They are interested in tourists – Most of the Chinese and Turkish people look to a foreigner when they see them in buses, streets, subways and so on. Most of them want to speak with the tourists even though some of them dont know English. They like tourist very much.
2) Bargaining in Turkey and in China is very similar.
3) There are lots of street hawkers in Turkey and China.
4) Virginity is important for most of the Turkish and Chinese people.
5) Civilians are not very strict to the traffic lights for the pedestrians.
6) They both like when one strokes their babies.
7) Turkey's and China's silk production is famous.
8 ) The nervousness of Chinese and Turkish people are similar.
Both countries were conquested by Britain. As known, The war called the first world war, in fact was the one which had realized between the Ottoman Empire and Britain( her allies, france and russia). These three states had made a plan to annul the Ottoman Empire. the first world war was really a war against the turks. Istanbul ( capital of turkey at that time) was conquested by britain, france and Italy. The same thing happened to China. After war, Turkey has emerged in Anotolia and has held a westernized way. Russia had explained the plan which will abolish the Ottoman Empire to the world together with 1917 october revolition. China chose the communist way. In history , both counties had resisted against the western imperialism.As we remember that the kurdish terrorist head was caught in the greek embassy ın kenya, as some minority leaders in china are going around in the western states freely. Their minority problems have been exposed by the western states to be unstable these two countries. Now, despite all kind of challenges created by some states, the two states have improved their economies and made a great deal of progress in many ways. the silk road had tied the two with each other in the past. Now , both countries should and will establish the peace road in asia and in the world together with the counties that believe in peace as the founder of Turkey, Ataturk said peace at home peace abroad-in the world.
You can connect turkey to every country and every custom, and China too. Because I believe that turkey is in the middle of the civilization. actually in the middle of the evertything. but this topic is about military also. it doesn't matter even it is.
Eunice who has told you that England has occupied Turkey....before the 1st World War & after it Turkey was absolutely independent till nowadays. Back to the topic I see a great difference between these two nations because of Turks have occupied China since 5th century AD. Chinese know who are Turks and what they did in the ancient time with them....and if we talk about minorities why do the Europeans do not wanna give theirs minorities independence for example England has to free Scotland, Wales and Norhern Ireland. Belgium, Spain, Finnland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and other more countries that have the same problems as Turkey. so Please pay attention when you talk about minorities and their laws in Turkey and I see Turkey the most modern, democratic (even more than Europe) than other new European members.
The most important thing that I have experienced through my Chinese friends is that they respect older people (parent-child relationship) and have a high moral value of the society; which is very common in Turkey as we love tradition and family values. Another aspect is that we both have great food!
This is why Turks get along better with Chinese (and other eastern people too), but not very much with the Western cultures (in micro-relationships too)
Turkey have it as a sign of the courage of Muslims and the sacrifice of their lives for what is good,the crescent and star are ancient symbols of Islam and are considered to be signs of good luck. In China Red is a symbol that gives color to the soul of the nation. In the past, red stood for dignity and mystery. Although both countries have different religions Islam and Buddhism both of them encouraged to lead a healthy, active life with the qualities of kindness, chastity, honesty, mercy, courage patience and politeness,and has a perfect and complete code for the guidance of individuals and communities alike.
Xing Jiang is the connection.
East Turkestan aka Xinjiang. Much more egregious than what China has done in Tibet and much more likely to explode (again).
The only thing I can think of is at my house the turkey is served on the good china.
in fact chinises and turks have known eachother for centanary.it was based wars with eachother.Great Wall of China was built because of this.so İ guess the most feature both of them had got fightining society in history.Now,of course both of them have got the fastest growing economy in the world.
UK is NOT much smaller than Turkey, and was, in fact, much bigger when they attacked Turks. And no, Turks were never governed by the Brits, though you are right that the Chinese were governed by the Japanese.
Turkey's population has only recently passed that of England, and was historically lower than England, especially when the WW1 broke out, when Ottoman Turkey had already lost most of its lands.
for some decades china have had factories for production that has boost their economy and they are fast growing, but now turkish is seriously competeing with china on the aspect on production and awarness of their products, and this is really boosting their economy,because most coutries now prefer their designs and quality, and me as well.
Well, both Turkish and Mandarin can make a question out of any sentence by putting 'mu' at the end...
There are so many similarities:
1. Although most of the Western analysits stated in the last years that both countries are producing "cheap" products with a "low-quality" profile, both countries have recently proved themselves as producers of "high-quality" products as well, thanks to the enhancement of industrial innovation in both countries. Both countries are home to the production of world's leading brands such as Bosch, Mercedes, Siemens, Philips etc.
2. Turkey had an economic growth of 11,7% in the first quarter of 2010. And thus, it has been the second fastest growing country in this period in the world right after China (11,9%)
3. I have travelled two years ago to the East part of China and was so impressed by the hospitality of the people, the cultural richness, the diverse flora that i started to learn Chinese right afterwards. I was probably so impressed by the country not only because of visiting one of the oldest societies in the world history, but also because as a Turkish person I felt so "at home" in this big country based on "cultural diversity" just as in Turkey.
4. If you go to Xi'An you see the Muslim quarter, mosques, listen to the call of the muezzin in beautiful Chinese melodies. And if u go to Istanbul u also meet so many diverse cultures and religious backgrounds such as Jews, Christians as well as variuos Muslim doctrines..
5. One of the first things I noticed in China was the determination of the Chinese people to develop themselves and their countries. They are very hard workers, just as Turkish people are. And both nations keep on smiling, no matter what happens..
6. Both countries will be leading economic powers in the world in the near-future. Being a powerful economic power will make them also vital political powers in the world..
Easiest connection there is; the Silk Road, the oldest connection between the Western and Eastern Worlds. It started (or ended, depending on your perspective) in Byzantium (modern day Istanbul) and continued all the way to the old Chinese capital, modern day Xi'an.
Respect is the most important thing in both countries.
US and Israel is common enemy.
Both of them have rulled the world once and want to do it again!
Turkey has no history... and that church shown in the picture was Greek before turks invade Istabul!
'Khan' is a Turkic word meaning 'king'. The Mongols were a Turkic people who conquered China. There is one connection.
The key here is that "Turkey" is but one nation founded by Turkic peoples. The eponymous nation is but one of many present-day and former Turkic nations.
Currently, China and Turkey has the two fastest growing economies in the world, respectively.
China has been occupying the land of Tibets- Tibet and Uyghurs – East Turkistan in 1950s. Since then they have been sending millions of Chinese people into these areas to make everyting Chinese. Uyghurs and Tibetans have different culture, language and history then the Chinese. Uyghurs are very distinct nation compare to the Chinese. Several hundreds of Uyghur students demonstrated in Urumqi last year on the 5th of July but the heavy handed Chinese police shooted and killed the students and the Uyghurs started to riot against the CHinese occupation. More then 50 thousand uyghurs guys and girls including children got killed.
I was in Diyar bakir 2 months ago, a dozen of Kurdish people were throwing stones and putting fire on the streets then they ran away. Turkish police did not kill kurdish people by using this action as an excuse to attack kurdish people. Kurdish people and Turkish share the same religion and similar culture and Kurdish peolpe seems like not very united, spread all the countries in middle east, there was not never a country called Kurdistan with their own terrotory. That is why the confilict betweern Turkish and Kurdish is a lot more less complicated and light in Turkey then the confilict between Uyghurs and Chinese, Tibetans and Chinese, Mongols and Chinese in China.
Chinese wontons have evolved into Turkish 'manti' and eventually Italian ravioli. There are many cognates between the languages, and many traditional shared values based upon Shamanism.
You're right, Niclas. They mistreat their minorities, and in the recent past, they have committed acts of genocide against them. The Chinese against Tibetans and Uygurs (spelling?), The Turks against Armenians and Kurds.
East Turkistan ( Uyghuristan), the country occupied by China in 1949, is the place where people from Turkey during the ancient Silk road used to live.
only one thing in common, chinese are selling , turks are buying
As a Turkish cardiologist and a semi-professional musician i visited Beijing 2 years ago when we gave a concert in which we performed examples of our traditional songs, with Orfeon Chamber Choire in the "International Culture Olympics" in "National Centre for Performing Arts, which is also called "The Egg" . I was surprised to see how much that country resembled mine. First of all streets seemed so crowded and messed up, just like in Istanbul. All the clothes of the people and the way they behave was modern and friendly. I thought that they were usually introvert people dressed in their traditional clothes, mostly because of the far eastern cinema. Of course i recognized that my opinions about China as a foreigner just resembled the way many people who do not know Turkey thinks. Secondly, i used to know China as a communist country, however i was surprised that all those "Starbucks' " and "Mc donalds' " were there, they did not miss anything just like in my country. In my opinion, the governments also behave in similar manners, they are trying to play the leading role in their region, try to be a foregoing economical power worldwide. And investment on strong relations with the other governments is a common feature. Of course there is much to say and these are only a few points...:)
I am no expert on either country but I have lived in China for 5 years and am currently in Turkey for my second year (and longer as I am engaged to a Turk). I can only offer a few point to consider and which I can elaborate upon from a cultural anthropologist perspective.
– the tea cultures are both embedded and related (not practically but historically)
– the silk route as mentioned in other posts (I live in Bursa which is a key point in the silk route)
– Xinjiang, China where the Uyghurs are from. The cultures are so similar that itt is a shock when you visit Kashgar or Ulumuqi. The food, architechture, trades (e.g. carpets), etc., are all Turkish.
– Turkey still commonly uses Mongolian names (Cengiz, Timucin, etc.).
– Both languages have been recently converted into Roman characters.
– Nationalism is rampant (yes, big deal...same everywhere) due to an inherent pride in past glory. Everyhing is a reference to history.
– Arabian Nights has links.
– Religious singlularity is important in both countries (opposing the comment above which is wildly outrageous).
– Histories were merged during the reign of Ghengis Khan (they overtook the entire region that is now Turkey). Turkey still has overflow from that.
– Some of the folk tales are nearly identical (compare, with an open mind, Nasrettin Hoca and Confucious stories).
There is so much more and I will sit down and have
I had internship through AIESEC and now working in Turkey , the culture is unbelievably similar in some points. And I like those kind of experiences.
Turkey is the biggest producer for material raw material in the world.. and most of it goes to China for production.
Both Chine and Turkey are famous for their delicious tea. Furthermore, tea is a very important aspect in their cultures and traditions, e.g. as a sign of friendship and hospitality. As a matter of fact, both countries share their sense of hospitality, as well.
They both block the internet, not allowing certain websites to be accessed (like youtube, google).
Most Important connection is the Turks living in Turkey, and Turkic Speaking People In China. Western Part Of China which is Called Xingjiang region of China, Also Called Easten Turkistan. You Can see and meet many Turkic Speaking People Such As Uyghurs, Hui, Kirghiz, Uzbek, Kazakh, Ili, Yugur, Salar or (salur). Although there is a huge distance between Western China and Turkey there are huge cultural and linguistic similarities remain
The Turkish peoples and the people in xinjiang provience share the same ancestors.they speak almost the same language.
According to Chinese records, Turkish political history in Asia commenced with the Huns. The Hun State, which first appeared in the third century BC, became a significant and powerful state during the reign of its founder, Mete Khan. Turks have their homeland in Central Asia where they have established the Great Hun Empire as early as 204 BC, which was spread over a vast portion of land extending from Siberia in the north and Tibet and Kashmir in the south to the Caspian Sea in the west and the Pacific Ocean in the east. The Gokturk Empire, which was founded around AD 550, is the first state to use the word ‘‘Turk’’ in its official name.
As I know, the ancestor of Turkey was one of enemy in ancient China which call " Turkic " They built up the large empire in mid Asia and fight with china several time.(on around 6th century )
I will have my wedding in two weeks in Istanbul and two good Chinese friends of mine are travelling from Shangai to attend the ceremony. We met in London while we were studying 6 years ago and we became good friends. I also visited them in China and was impressed by the country but mostly with the people and their hospitality. Culturally we are much similar than we know. I am looking forward to host them in Turkey and tohear about their impressions of Turkey. I will let you know!
The very first similarity that I remember, after visiting both of this countries are their cuisine. Chinese, as well as Turkish national dishes are characterized to be too much spicy. And majority of national dishes of above-mentioned countries include garlic..
the china were under pressure by Turks. the turks were so many campaings organizing. therefore the china was built china wall. I think this is global connection between turkey and china.
Turkey and China could be the strongest countries if they can change the rules of economic and global game in the world. If they do this with using their separate power, no country can stand this enormous power between two fastest growing countries. That is the point that everyone should exactly focus on now.
Turkey's population is young with the average age being under 30 – China also has a young population.
Turkey's economic growth rate was reported to be 10% in Q2 2010 – similar to China's high growth rates.
Turkey's banking system was largely untouched by the current financial chrisis as it's banks did not engage in the 'sub prime fraud' and financial antics that brought down the 'western' banking system. Chinas banks were similarily unscathed by the scandals.
Turkey is well placed to become a low cost manufacturing centre on the doorstep of the European Union countries maybe even taking some of that activity away from China. Shipping times from Turkey to Northern European countries are less than 1 week. Shipping times from China are 5 weeks.
Ethnically, Turks originated in Central Asia, which is today's Western China. That's why China today has a considerable size ethnic Turkish minority.
The layout of Topkapi Palace in Istanbul is too similar to the Forbidden City in Beijing to be just coincidence. And both countries filled their corridors of power with eunuchs until only a few generations ago.
I have been to both countries... to begin with, the people usually have black hair. Their food is greatly sought after all around the world, and they do not have freedom of speech. They both have beautiful natural attractions. Both nations are in dialogues with the international community on increasing their human rights. They're both developing countries. Geographically, they have both coastal areas and land borders with other countries. They are both bordered by multiple countries – Turkey by eight; China by 13 (from my count).
@Alex: Thales of Miletus, Diogenes and Heracletus were actually Greek living in Asia Minor that belonged to Greece back then. The Turkish people arrived there more than 1500 years later.
@Peter Niraj: There are some people who claim that kebab is a German specialty. It is the same people who say that pizza was invented in the US (in the Brooklyn, NY area) and that curry is a traditional English dish. Nice connection though, both countries have got excellent food!
Turks make up one of China's many native ethnic groups. Other Turkic people are native to China, the Uyghurs for example.
I think one of the clearest links between China and Turkey is Islam, and in fact both nations have to deal with a vocal minorities who want independance, be it the Kurds in Turkey or the Uyghars or Tibetans in China.
Each have a staunchly secular government but a deeply religious citizenry. They may be commerically tied but their religious and ethnic ties are equally deep if not deeper.
AT that time there is no china china is callde 唐(tang)
similarities between Turkey and China:origin-In,we were made to believe that most turks were Chinese Migrants;Identity:the chinese flag and turkey flag are similiar except that the crescent on that of chinese are broken.Furthermore,family system are similiar,the family members usually live together among the turks just as the chinese does.Also,life expectancy in both countries is unbelievably 73 years.Likewise,both countries operate unicameral system of Governance.Economically,the major exports in both counties are similiar:apparel,machines,medical equipments,transport equipment.Also,the literacy level in both countries are almost the same.In conclusion,the richest individuals in both countries worth not more than 3.0 billion US DOLLAR.
Thanks Aram and Eunice for your comments
The turks who lives in the modern Turkish Republic are origined from central Asia. Even today some turkic tribes lives in north-west and west regions of China. Before tribes moves to Anatolia and to northen Europe there had been many conflict between the Turkish tribes and Chinese states. Due to this some says that Chinese great wall has been build in order to prevent the turkish calvaries raids.
The cause of this wars and conflicts Turks in Turkey and Chinese people could have many common things. But i am pretty sure that it is not beacuse of the flag and the red in Turkish flag is represents the blood of its martyrs who are took place in the defend the country. The red in the Chinese flag represents the communism.
Alex you're wrong....
Thales of Miletus (the first western philosopher), Diogenes, Heraclitus were Greek, because by that time turkish territory was Greek!
Ottomans-Turks came later from Mongolia-China!
And actually Ottoman-Turks attacked and destroyed Istanbul or Konstantinoupoli (the real name).
Both country have world-class cuisines.
you can relate any country to china yo
It was the Chinese that gave "Turkey" its name. The Chinese named the Turkic tribes "Tu Jue" which means 'strong' referring to the Turkic tribes living in Central and Northern Asia over 2,700 years ago. The Turks were nomadic and swept from regions north of the Great Wall of China, across Central Asia and eventually into Europe. During this time, they migrated from becoming a Northern Asian culture to Central Asian to Euro-Asian and the cultural influences, race mixing and linguistic connections can be traced along this route today.
Today, on the streets of Beijing, you can see people eating Shish Kabobs and Donair like it is a local cuisine. In the Western part of China, you can see a melding of cultures and hear the Uyghurs, who appear as a mix of Chinese and Turkish, speaking a Turkic language and listening to the latest pop tunes from Istanbul. As you go across Central Asia, you can see the race, culture and linguistic mixing and influences across Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan all the way West until you get to Ankara and Istanbul, where the ties the Ottoman Turks had with China through the Silk Road are evident in arts, clothing and architecture. Even similarities for basic words such as for sky, water, and ending questions with "ma" or "mu/mi" remain today.
The Turks and the Chinese sometimes forget to celebrate and take advantage of this common history and peoples, but some 3,000 years and 7,000km later, shared similarities between Istanbul and Beijing continue in lineage, food, cultural values and language.
Perhaps the freedom of speech, as you cant talk against the state in both countries
We can see several similarities between Turkish and Chinese society.
1- Family is a quite important part of life for both societies.Both of them really like to spend their time between family members.
2- Both countries' food taste is almost similar. "Rice" and "Soup" are main dishes for meals.
3- Both of them are really good at production of imitation products.
4- People from China and Turkey have bias to save their money because the future is not so explicit in these countries.When some people lose their whole money and wealth in one night, some people are becoming millioners at the same night.
Both have trouble with militant islamists.
It is a historical fact that both the Turkish and the Chinese nation had a period of coexistence in ancient times, simply because the Turks were a tribe of nomads in what is today Mongolia, until the 12th century AD. Obviously, the Greek Thales from Militus (6th century BC) was not a Turk and can not be part of any comparison between the turkish and the chinese historical legacy. The Turks invaded Minor Asia after the 12th century AD. So the cultural relation of China with Turkey is historical, actual and very modern. Both societies share a long tradition of similar regimes and political practices, which differs a lot from what is political practice in the West.
in both country internet is sensored, in china you can not enter most websites, in Turkey in last seven years you can not enter to websites about evolution, or you cant even enter the sites which sells swimsuits etc.
Historically speaking Turks and Chinese have little in common. Turks originated from Mongolia but they have been mixed with various ethnic groups such as Persians, Kurds, Arabs, Greeks, Armenians e.t.a. On the other hand Chinese remain the same mix of ethnic groups throughout the last 300 centuries.
Regarding the economy, they are both developing very fast and have potential for continuous growth the next decade, although they follow different economical models.
Other common characteristics are:
1. Strong bureaucracy and state propaganda which restrain opposition with questionable methods.
2. They both rely on the fact that most people are undereducated and easy to manipulate.
3. Big ideas regarding future leadership (China as a world superpower and Turkey as a regional superpower).
Not common characteristics:
The Turkish state has small history which spans the last 8 centuries (although they claim ancient Greek history as theirs). On the contrary Chinese history spans for at least 600 centuries.
The Uighur language is a Turkic language. It belongs to the same language family as Turkish, and Uighurs are a major minority group in China.
Both countries were invaded by the Mongols. The Turkish language is from the Altaic group of languages which is influenced by Chinese, as the Altai mountains run partly thru China. Turkic tribes emigrated into Central Asia and became neighbors with the Chinese, and now the Uighur people identify heavily with the Turks and their language is heavily influenced by the Turkish language.
I'm a Chinese student just came back from the US a few days ago. On my visit to Washington DC, I gladly knew a Turkish family in our group. China seems to be such a far place for them, but we both have a strong desire to know each other's country. Their kindness impressed me a lot. In ancient time, we two countries have great connection. İstanbul used to be the end of the 'silk road'. With the people in the world become closer and closer, more connections must be found and created.
The Chinese eat pork. The Turks don't practice antropophagy.
Eastern Turkestan, Uygur and Tuva Turks, Altay region as well as part of some of the Taiwan population are Turkic and moslem. Some of them are still shamanist. All have in common the Orhun monuments and the Turkic language. As I was looking into Turk and .Chin. the last name of a singer caught my attention "Boyunbosunova" from Russian-Chinese border region. In Turkey this would mean "Boypos" which connotes tall and elegant. Manti is also a Turkish food very much like the Chinese boiled dish made from rice "yufka," In fact after the nationalists left mainland China Uygur, Tuva, Nogay people took many of their recipes with them to Taiwan. In fact from Western China all the way to Turkey and Bosnia-Herzegovina Turkic languages are spoken with dialects. Cenghiz Khan with his conquests has brought many Chinese and Mongol words to the Ottoman regions long before the Ottoman Empire. The region of the Airport in Ankara, was named after one of his generals "EsenBuga." Hence through wars and migration China and its immediate neighboring people have shown up in Turkey, some in Hungary and Finland. As human beings we all have many traits in common and differences which have come through many generations and lands.
Chine and Turkey are past enemy like soviet union and US. Both colonies are the biggest civilizations of the world.
both countries have a strong manner of treating their minorities :
the Armenians in the past and the Kurds now in Turkey, the Tibetans and the Ouigours in China.
allready... The Chinese wall is built to be able to protect China from the Turkish countries in the Middle Asia...
1.i think you are talking nonsense, the great wall was built by chinese to stop huns not accient turkic people , more importantly today's turkish are not desedants of accient turkic people, today's turkish are mostly just mixe- blooded greek people with some aisan tribes called ugushi who were conquered by accient accient turkic people and forced to adopt turkic lanauage, bloodline of today's turks from turkey are proven genetically has nothing to do with accient turkic people.
2. nothing in china about chinese culture was built by accient turick people and let alone the today's fake turks .
i think you are brainwashed by your turkish govertment
1.i think you are wrong , the great wall was built by chinese to stop huns not accient turkic people , more importantly today's turkish are not desedants of accient turkic people, today's turkish are mostly just mixe- blooded greek people with some aisan tribes called ugushi who were conquered by accient accient turkic people and forced to adopt turkic lanauage, bloodline of today's turks from turkey are proven genetically has nothing to do with accient turkic people.
As an American- Turkish Citizen living in Turkey for 8 years and have been to China as well, I can say that both countries are definitely similar. They're both really dirty. Neither gives a crap about their environment. you can find almost all your trash on the ground. Both have dogs and cats living everywhere on the street s and don't give a s#$#$^$^& about animals except for eating them. In addition, they both are overly populated; giving birth to children left and right. As far as Made in China or Made in Turkey, it doesn't matter. Both countries make poisonous materials.
Europeans once called the Qing Empire as the Sick Man of Asia, while the Ottoman Empire was called the Sick Man of Europe. Both empires collapsed in the early 20th century and both countires are on the rise in the early 21st century.
Sun Yat-sen and Ataturk are respective revolutionary leaders of the two nations, revered for their efforts to modernize and reform their national cultures.
"Turkey, is well-known for its notable historical record stretching back hundreds of years. " Thousands of years would be more accurate.
Both invented, use and manufacture Cymbals and Gongs – Wuhan Chinese cymbals and Zildjian Turkish cymbals
All the people are many in common, they have eyes, noses and mouth
Turks originated from Central Asia, neighboring China, and moved all over the world. Today still some Turkic people (such as Uyghurs) live in China (Especially in East Turkestan with its changed name by Chinese government: Xianjiang) and some others mixed with Chinese and other ethnic groups of China. China with its all 1.3 billion population is not all Chinese (i.e., Hans) but a mixture of Turkic, Mongolians, Manchus and Tibetans. Approximately 300 million people of China has Turkic origin. Great Chinese culture in fact is greatly influenced by original Turkic Culture.
Historically they were neighbors and most of the time not so friendly neighbors. Great Wall was built for protection against Mongol and Turkic Raiders. The word "Turk" (means strong, brave) first time mentioned in Chinese records. Turks initially called themselves "Gök Türk" which means "Sky Turk". During big migration from Central Asia, some Turkic tribes moved westward to Anatolia and made this land their homeland. During the migration and after the settlement upto today, Turks mixed with various people such as Persians, Armenians, Greeks, Arabs, Georgians, Slavs, and other smaller groups of Indo-European people. After Turkic Seljuks and Ottoman Empires they have established today's Repuplic of Turkey. Today, majority of People of Turkey is not purely Turkic but the mixed People of Ancient Anatolia.
Culturally, one may say that people of Turkey has some Eastern values similar to Chinese. But Turkey has adapted Western way of thinking. One may state that People of Turkey today synthesized Eastern and Western values and ways of thinking. Both have great cuisines. Silk Road used to start at Beijing and end in Istanbul..
One more interesting common thing: Both Turks and Chinese consider Genghis Khan one of their great leaders.
Is it a joke that Heraclitus, Thales, Diogenes and other philosophers were Turks? Are their fragments in Turkish? They were born in a land which was occupied by Turks thousands of years later. It is widely known that they were Greeks. Have you ever heard an Italian saying that Zeno of Elea was Italian? Regarding the capital: if names have a significance, the capital of the Byzantine empire was Constantinople and not Istanbul.
Founder of today Chineese State is "Chouv" native a Turk and have The oldest dynasty on the China's history.Chouv is intelligent a leader as Great Han emperor the "Teoman and Mete" who gathered together chinese colonies and built the Great China Wall for protecting chinese people from Turks.Because of drought, epidemic diseases, chineese intrigues imigrated Han s(turks) from middle Asia to Anotolia...
"Türk" that word's meaning is to spring up, increase, multiply same as population of China.
Both of the countries have restricted popular video sharing web sites such as youtube...
Both the countries are Secular.
According to culinary experts, along with the Chinese and the French, the Turkish kitchen is one of the three great cuisines of the world.
Most cuisines usually rely on one basic element, like pasta which is the essence of Italian cuisine. Turkish cuisine, however, features a huge variety of foods and countless ways and methods to prepare them (for example, there are more than 40 ways to prepare eggplant in the Turkish cuisine). The variety and number of methods used in Chinese cuisine is also vast and both cuisines have a rich history.
The two countries are very much connected. The wall of China was practically built to keep the invading Turkic tribes out (Turks originated from that area and they are not from the Caucasus). It wasn't until around 770 AD that they finally reached (after conquering Persia) the Armenian highlands and occupied it. These were the Seljuk Turks who eventually became the Ottoman Empire and by 15th century the last of Armenian Kingdome (Cilicia) fell to them.
China is well aware of the desire of today’s Turkic states (Turkey, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and the Turkic people within region of western China) to join together (pan-Turkism) which will bring them back to the door steps of China. The only thing stopping Turkey today from achieving this geographically is the little landlocked country of Armenia (like a wedge between their two mortal enemies, Turkey and Azerbaijan) by the help of Russia.
- Both nations are part of G20 and their economies are growing pretty fast
– Both Turks and Chinese lived side by side in old days
– Both nations have strong military
– Both nations censor some internet websites
– Both nations have never been colonized even though tried to be colonized many times
– Turkish and Chinese pottery are famous worldwide
– Turkish and Chinese rugs and carpets are famous worldwide
– Both nations are proud of their products having "Made in Turkey" or "Made in China" labels on them
– Both nations have a young population
– Both countries sit on earthquake active zone
– EU and US apply strict visa regulation on both countries
hello! i think that the most important connection between the 2 countrys is the Silk road. The silk road is an extensive interconnected network of trade routes across the Asian continent connecting East, South, and Western Asia with the Mediterranean world, as well as North and Northeast Africa and Europe. Another connection between the china and turkey was the Mongolian Empire in 1279.
Has anybody else realized that nearly everywhere else there is a chinatown, but in Turkey there isn't?
Both China and Turkey have a hard time dealing with minorities in their countries.
I realise that this program is meant to display what is positive and interesting in these places, but perhaps it would be appropriate to mention, as an aside, the incidents with the Turkic Uyghurs in China recently, and the outcry by the leadership in Ankara against the actions by the Chinese government.
In turn, Turkey has often been accused of suppressing its Kurdish minority in particular, to say nothing of its hypocritical and discriminatory national policies with regards to the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and Jews, the most prominent example of which is the ongoing denial of genocide, the massacres and deportations of Christians from Asia Minor during the First World War. The Anatolian peninsula is indeed "one of the oldest continuously inhabited regions on earth", but its continuously-inhabited population was depleted in the years 1915-1923.
China has carried out similar practices vis-à-vis Tibet, for example.
two counry have strong hıstorıcal power...
and ı thınk turkey wıll be rısıng star ın europe ın a few years...
the Turkish and the Chinese were "neighbours"; the Great Walls were built because of this "initmate" proximity.
In both countries, the capital city has an extremely prominent position and is more developed and sometimes perceived as somewhat "different".
Also, in both nations the coastal regions are way more prosperous, with a growing divide towards the "backward" and less developed inner provinces, which in both countries holds the potential for political turmoil
Well at Thanksgiving we eat turkey off china.
We, Turks do not care much about genetic pool. What makes a person turk is, his ideology and cultural heritage. We did not kill jews for being jew or cut tongues of indians who cannot speak english. We did not exterminate whole nations (like 'american Indians) either. You should accept the fact We could easily wipe anatolia, balkans, africa and middle east ethnically when we were superpower in Mediterranean. The reason Ottomans grow so fast and stayed so long is the culture of tolerance. In last 200 years of Empire, everybody suffered many atrocities, including ethnic Turks so do not bring those as how this country operated. If you are greek and speaking greek after hundreds of years of Ottoman 'occupation?' than you should ask yourselves what would happen if England was occupying Greece for same period. Ottoman royal family is one example to our insensitivity to skull measuring. It is one of the longest royal family who stayed in power (same family) and ethnically almost from the start, almost all the queens whose son became king were ethnically non-turkish. We Turks love them all and we do not question their turkishness. A Hun who lived hundred years ago in north of Chine is as much turk as I am. This is why you can only see 3% gene from asia in current Turkey's gene pool. We came in, we mixed up with local population. If you are so in genetic stuff go look also Sicily's origin, Their Genes,even genes of their cows are more related to People and cows in current Turkey than mainland Italy. Does it mean Sicilians are Turkish? or Does it mean Turks are Italian or European?
We mix up and form community as it happens everywhere.
Both countries refuse to recognize their own past crimes (but Turkey starts evolving more favorably, when China still threatens its minorities by forced "Hanization" of its bordering regions, and still forces them to emigrate to put them in minorities on their own historic soils).
What will happen next ? Turkey incluence starts booming in Central Asia, it is restoring the Road of Silk through the former satellites of the Soviet union. Tueky may turn to create its own Turkic community, from Istanbul to Mongolia. That's why it needs support by China (and China needs Turkey support to help stabilize its eastern regions, where hanization is failing, also because China will prefer collaborating with Turkey rather than Iran, and can also help creating a new force to the East and North of India, out of real control by declining US or a restored powerful Russia).
China wants a moderate islam (we also do want it). Turkey may help as being a new model that will fade out the Iranian model. Turkey will also help stabilize the Middle East (it can effectively control Syria). The corruped Persic kingdoms will fail, they are much more fragile as they have spent most of their ressources only for futilities or pharaonic projects. Turkey is certinaly a good model of development for many islamic countries in Central Asia (when they will realize that the pharaonic projects made by some of their dictators inherited from the USSR leadership must have an end) , that don't want to evolve like Iran and don't want to come back to the influence of Russia.
But the real challenge for Central Asia Turkic regions is water, not oil. That's why they need Turkey and good relationsships with their surrounding countries.
Central Asia is where China and Turkey are competing for their influence. The one that will win the region will also be able to control most of Southern Asia. and finally Russia will loose its influence to the East (turning back to ally itself with Europe), and China will win to the North-Eastern coast.
I predict that the Russian Federation will progressively be split between North-West, and South-East (whose republics will be turning to ally with China near the Pacific, and to Turkey for the rest), it will abandon most of its positions except northern Siberia for its oil. Turkey will be there to control the road to the East. There will be no war, this will evolve gradually, because both US and Russia will have lost their influence there.
Mine Isil tasgioglu seems rather angry ! and is the only one who cannto contol her language. Don't know where you have visited in Turkey or China but your comments are a little wrong. When it comes to eating animals may I remond you that not only Turks or chinese animals but 95% of the world. When it comes to manufacturing again, Turkey and China are not the only manufaturers in the world. What does giving brith to children left and right mean ? Were you not also brought into this world in the same way. Suggest if Turkey is not the place for you that you look at moving back to where you are happy.
China has claims to Taiwan, while Turkey lays claims to Cyprus
Turkey does not get along with its neighbour Greece, while China does not get along with its Neighbour Japan
Part of Turkey is in Europe, while part of China is in the Indian Subcontinent.
Turkey boarders Iran, who are thought to be working in Nuclear technology, while China boarders North Korea which is also thought to pocess nuclear technology.
China has a special adminstrative region in the island of Macau, Turkey has a special admistrative region in the Island of Cyprus.
China has Chinese restaurants (which serve typical stuff like sushi, noodle, spaghetti, prawns, etc.) all over the Americas, EU and rest of the world. Turkey has Kebab Houses all over the EU and americas.
You can find both of these types of restaurants anywhere in the world and they are quite famous.
Silk road. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road
the Turki came from China
Both of them were great countries in hostory ,and ,my country ,China will always be a great country.
my grandfather was second in command to the presedent, my uncle is a retired 4 star admiral ,my father a pow in cyprus. Before all this our clan were advisors to the sultan . It was Ataturk that gave my grandfather our name "Ozdemir" because we gave up our land and title to help make the country. We are very proud of this as are others with similar stories. So here i am in Canada a turkish martial arts master of chinese kung fu . There has never been an instance where i did not understand the chinese way ., respect is key. This is mainly due to the fact that we are the same heart. (you do not eat until the head of the family eats first, and even then ...)
From the souces that i have i can truly tell you that there was a strong relationship and knowledge exchange, this is not from books its from handed down information. in fact some older generation chinese have lovingly refered to turks simply as hairy chinamen
both countries are shining and rising star of the world as their star on their flag..
Though tryin 2 gather some info,but even both into d movie industry they use d same technology in d arrangement of movie and music. As soon as i gather up tips and tapes,i wil b glad 2 drop it @ ur step.
There are so many similarities:
1. Although most of the Western analysts stated in the last years that both countries are producing "cheap" products with a "low-quality" profile, both countries have recently proved themselves as producers of... "high-quality" products as well, thanks to the enhancement of industrial innovation in both countries. Both countries are home to the production of world's leading brands such as Bosch, Mercedes, Siemens, Philips etc.
6. Both countries will be leading economic powers in the world in the near-future. Being a powerful economic power will make them also vital political powers in the world.
By 1279 AD both Turkey and China were under the same emipire – Mongols.
Here's some general ideas, not in any specific order:
(1) Turks consider Huns and other related ancient tribes/nations (and even sometimes Mogols) Turks. If you study Turkish version of history, you will see Cenghis Khan and Attila were Turks. In the first millenium, Turks had close relations with Chinese, including marriages, friendly events but mostly wars. The first written Turkish artifacts from 700 (Orkhun Scripts) talk in part about relations and disputes with China.
(2) Both cultures have common art forms, notably creamics. The walls of Blue Mosque show very fine examples of Turkish ceramic arts, for example. Turks call the art of ceramic "chin-e", which may indicate very old and deep relations between the two cultures.
(3) The ancient Silk Road connected China and Anatolia and acted as a bridge between West and East. Note that Silk Road predated the Greek period. Turks started to arrive at Anatolia in 8th century. Widespread influx took place in 11th century. Turks mixed with native Anatolians (no Greeks or Arabs, but true natives such as people descending from Luwi, Hittites, Lydians, etc) and other nomads and invaders of Anatolia such as Greeks. In doing so, picked up lots of new genes and has become increasingly different than their Eastern ancestors in appearance.
(4) Interestingly and contrary to the general belief, the colors and shapes in the Turkish flag have nothing to do with Islam.
The crescent and the star refer to the "sky Gods" from pre-islam beliefs of Turks. And the bright red color depicts the blood shed to protect their values.
Ottoman sultans had declared themselves as the "protector of Islam" for many centuries. Hence, the association between Islam and the crescent had begun.
(5) According to Turks, anyone can call himself/herself a Turk. It is not so much of an ethnic label. Hence, they saw no danger in freely mixing their gene pools over the centuries. But in modern times, that has created some issues. For example, the consitution and other laws use "Turk" to refer to a person who resides in Turkey, whereas some circles like to present it as a proof of suppression of minorities.
(6) Turks are inherently and traditionally tolerant and receptive to other cultures. That's why Greeks, Armenians, Serbs, Kurds and others are still around today with their cultures and beliefs fully intact. Despite many centuries of Turkish rule, they have never been assimilated, very much unlike Western colonism by which many cultures and beliefs have been exterminated and replaced by those of the oppressors.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon .... they are waiting for their turns in the global arena... 1 is already on the stage.. the second is still dont know its power but soon she will learn..
once the world was ruled by Beijing and Istanbul for centuries... if they play their cards good these 2 cities could be the power centers again. may be
Both Chinese and Turkish are very friendly people. They are very welcoming to tourists and foriegners, very easy to befriend with and hold a particularly soft spot for Pakistanis in general.
The founding fathers of both nations, that is, China's Mao Tse Tung and Turkey's Mustafa Kamal Atta Turk had military backgrounds and both launched armed struggles on multiple fronts to fight for the rights and welfare of their people and were equally popular among the masses at the time.
Both led armed struggle to get rid of their imperial dynasties.
Historically, Chinese were the first to invent gunpowder and printing press. These were later adopted and updated by the Turkish and passed on to Europe soon after.
Both were the Centre of two different Eastern Civilization and of scholarly arts and learning for a long time.
The founding fathers of both the nations introduced for the first time secular (free from religion) froms of governance in their respective nations.
Both have the colour "Red" in their flags.
Both are targets of Western Bias and are the focus of propaganda campaigns by the Western Civilization.
Both suffered a lot during World Wars which were forced upon them by their neighbours. The attrocities by outside powers on the local populations during these wars remain unaccounted for with no formal appologies by the responsible nations till this day.
The mountaineous regions of both the nations are a little backward as compared to their plains and costal areas.
Trade connections can be taken place between the two for temporary.
But real frienship between the two will never happen unless Beijing government does respect its law so it respects Uyghur & Kazakh people in occupied East Turkistan (Chinese Xinjiang) !
According to law, "Xinjiang is an Uyghur Autonomus Region" but this is on the paper only. Uyghur & Kazakhs are became minority in their own land and recently Chinese government aretrying to eliminate the Turkish (Uyghur or Kazakh or Kirgiz) languages from local schools.
One point that Turkish people may not easly realize is that the Chinese do not know how to shame and always blame every where is "part of Chinese terretories" including Istanbul due to those walls built by Constantine the Great.
1. Both are friendly people.
2. Both of their flag are in red color with stars.
3. Both countries have sea and mountain.
4. Both have similar in language - Uyghur or Chinese Turkistani !
1. Officials in both countries are corrupt.
2. Chinese looks to be more smiled than Turks
3. Turkey has independent law but in China it is under communist party.
4. Prostitution is allowed by law in Turkey while it is secretly everynight everywhere in China.
5. Turks does not eat all meats. But there is nothing Chinese doesn't eat !
How these two can profit/loss from each-other:
Turkey can profit from transfering cheaper Chinese goods to other part of the world. Turkish beach may receive more Chinese visitors but will loose European & Israel visitors.
Turkish Bordell owner will profit in huge due to cheaper Chinese chics !
China will spend huge money to buy turkish government and Islamic leaders to use them against US and European Union, but european and democratic oriented turkish people will finaly reject Chinese influence. China can not profit much at the final point.
Both republics have had their revolution in the 20th century which makes them strugglers for becoming a 1st world country. China and Turkey have the power of population; however, their mentalities make them different. China seems more successful in terms of economics, their strategy is more improved and maybe their location made it possible to make other countries sleep.
There is direct flight between Istanbul and Urumchi starting from February 2011 by China Southern Airlines !
One of the key issue is Uyghur Human Rights in Xinjiang:
If Turkey accept China as realy partner, then there has to be human rights guarantee for Uyghurs & Kazakhs within Xinjiang, including support for their language and culture in Xinjiang ! Otherwise, any relationship between Turkey and China is like that both sides are dringking sugar tee with a mosqito on it and will fail !
Armenians kept their heritage, language, religion and genes because of their tenacity and struggles of ancient times and not because of the moderation of living under occupation and the yoke of the Ottoman Empire. You might want to look up Hamidian massacres and bloody Sultan. If the Persians, Arabs, Romans, and Greeks could not convert us Armenins what chance did the Seljuk Turks had other than assimilating kids (some as Malmuks) and our women after they were stolen.
Long before Persian and Greek invasions Several states flourished in the area of Greater Armenia (now called Anatolia), including Aratta (Haik’s time), mentioned in Armenic Sumerian records (3rd millennium BC), the Hittite Empire (at the height of its power), Mitanni (South-Western historic Armenia) and Hayasa-Azzi (15th – 12th cc BC), and in the Iron Age the Nairi people (12th – 9th cc BC) and the Kingdom of Ararat (Biblical Ararat) (9th – 6th cc BC), each of the aformentioned nations and tribes participated in the ethnogenesis of the Armenian people. Yerevan, the modern capital of Armenia, was founded in 782 BC by the Urartian king Argishti I. We Armenians of today are descendents of these.
In Anatolia today you will find basically three types of Turks. Kemalist, Islamist, and untra-Nationalist racist Gray Wolfs (Fascist). There is no such thing in China like a “Deep State” or “Turkishness” as a punishable law. What China does to its minorities is nothing compared to what the Turks are doing to the Kurds and have done to the indigenous population of Anatolia (they were all purged there).
This is a curse on the Turkish nation and one day the Armenians will bring it back to them and deliver the head of Azena to their leaders.
China built the great wall avoid from ancients Turks which named "Hun Turks"
instead of stucking in that huge lie, go and help your people starving in Yerevan. Thousands of them are employed in turkey and not killed.
Btw, didn't armenians co-operate with the russians and killed the turks in the east?
live like sane people instead of making up stories and please try to help your people in armenia
@ Avatavrear: I was wondering when an armenian will pop up and start to bombard Turkey with twisted lies. It is so fun to read armenian comments when there is an issue about Turkey. You all have good dreams of course, like getting back your -so called lands- where you lost thousands of years ago, but hey wake up, it is time to go to work...
China has biggest walls in the world , Turkey has the second biggest walls in the world :)))
a lot of similarities..
I myself is experiencing one personally,that i m in love with a Turksih,with whom I shared life values and opinions on many many way...:)
During the history, Turkey and China are the symbol of the power in Asia. Both of them have roots on customs of country like meals, music, beliefs, sports, armed forces and locations.
While China has a traditional culture on meals, Turkish meals attain appreciations and appeals of the world with its fantastic flavour. Chinese people likes white meats but Turskish people likes kebap and döner which are made of veal. Turkish sweets has common on pastry like sweet pastry(baklava) and Sweety milkpast(güllaç) but chinese people like light sweets which made of fruits. Tea and Turkish coffee are the important drinks in Turkish life. Chise people drink green tea, too.
There are specific instrument in both countries and music is great piece of culture which has provide a mighty motivation on lifestyle.
Both of these countries had grown profound thinkers who affect the people and whose beliefs have gain more concern on worldwide. Everybody heard of these thinkers from China: Konfüçyüs,and Lao Tsu and from Turkey: Mevlana Jalaleddin Rumi and Said Nursi(has known Bediüzzaman).
Chinese people, who like sports and able to them, has known with their original sports Kung-Fu and Wushu. On the other hand turkish poeple have racy sports likes greased wrestling and javelin.
İn history, both of these countries had attended crucial wars and had undertaked an important role that consist on the balance of powers and global positions. These power comes from their martial spirit and their army have a powerful effect on regional side.
To Taner: If you want to help Armenia why don't you write to your Turkish government and ask them to remove its illegalblockade on Armenia and open the borders that they closed (which by itself is an act of war) in solidarity with Azerbaijan lwho was oosing the war they started against the Armenians of Nagorno Karabagh.
To firto: We are at work.....liberating Artsakh was just a beginning. However we have a long way to go and as ancient people who have past the test of time and are under no ilusions of their situation we can be very patient..
no connections at all, that Turks are mainly Anatolian genetically, chinese is eastern aisan.
china is top two world economy and has top three military.
turkey is relatively poor country desperate to get into EU.
chinese is not islamic, turkey is though.
Both countries have millions of Turks! Turkey is populated by Anatolian Turks, and there is a large region in Northwestern China, called Xinjiang in Chinese, that is historically and currently predominantly populated by Uyghur Turks, who are also Sunni Muslims. So both countries are populated by Muslims who speak a Turkic dialect.
Ironically enough, the flag that represents the Uyghur people is the exact same crescent moon flag as the Turkish flag, but light blue and white versus the Turkish red and white.
Also, YouTube is banned in both countries.
Here's something relatively trivial but fun: the last time either Turkey or China managed to make it to the planet's most-watched sporting event, the football World Cup, it was actually in the same year – 2002's edition in Japan & South Korea. And what's more, they were drawn in the same group... and played each other!
You may think it's only a recreational football game... but the World Cup is an immensely hard tournament to qualify and get into for (most) countries on Earth in any sport; especially for countries not traditionally powerful in football, and ESPECIALLY SO in 2002 given that there were 2 host nations, which meant only 30 instead of the usual 31 spots were available for 190-something countries to contest. Given that background, it's all the more interesting to have had Turkey made it amongst the elite for the first time since 1954, and China for the first time EVER... let alone having the fate to meet & play each other :)
In the end, Turkey dominated China 3-0 in a game played in Seoul, much to my dissatisfaction as I am proudly Chinese. The Turkish, however, were on absolute Cloud Nine; the team and therefore the Turkish public went on a once-in-life-time magic carpet ride that propelled them all the way to the semi-finals, and they finished a phenomenal 3rd place.. behind powerhouses Brazil and Germany. Even a non-football follower would be vaguely aware that losing to a Brasil (1-0) was absolutely no shame.
Since then, both Turkey and China had stalled in their football developments. Neither has qualified for the last two World Cups. But for one magical summer in 2002, the Turkish wrote beautiful history that they won't be forgetting any decades soon... while the Chinese – though having lost all 3 games – can at least proudly say they made their first step to the elite world stage. And on one magical night (as ANY given world cup game is relatively precious), both sets of fans hopefully got to know each other a little bit better :)
Well I suppose geographically the Turks started off as peoples from Mongolia neighbours to China. China then built the great wall which shows the extraordinary measures and determination one great empire goes to to protect itself from another great empire(Ottomon Empire).
Many(millions) of Turkic people still live in and around China, they look anything from Chinese to Turkish but are knowledgeable in both cultures, religion and language. As a result there are great culinary dishes which are fusion food of these 2 cultures. Amazing flavor cooked to perfection but very healthy as is typically with Asian cuisine.
Both countries have had to deal with some major natural disasters with very little support from other countries and have managed to cope quite well.
The Bejing Olympics was an absolute success in China and I believe Turkey would also perform similarly if the rest of the world actually gave it a chance to showcase itself. Turkey has been yearning for this opportunity but Europe and the rest of the world has used it as a tool to suppress Turkey.
Many have dismissed these 2 great nations and not give them much credit but in the coming decades we will see that these nations will further improve economically in a more stable way due to their own way of politics and government.
Economically they have both done much better than the rest of the world during the GFC and this should be seen as a litmus into how they both are much better equipped with dealing with global issues that would cripple any other country.
The connection is me. I like kebabs, which are from Turkey and I also like Chicken Chow Mein, which is from China. Also a Turkey is quite like a Chicken and chickens were invented in China.
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both Turkey and China have a very deep love to their own culture and at the same time they try to make the world be acquainted with their culture.
if you go to Turkey, you will find no one will answer you if you do not talk in Turkish language! pretending that they know no language other than Turkish!. also they try to be included within the international arena through their attempts to join the European Union and also their jumping propaganda of art , drama and media since media is one of the most strong ways through which a country can put itself on the international stadium.
As regards China, China on its turn invaded the whole world with their commodities. you can find no country without Chinese commodities. Trade is also one of the most strong ways to make a country sit on the chair of international relations.
Both Turkey and China have extremely nice touches on textiles.
Turkey and China share the same longing to be among superpowers in future.
To Edmond who suggested Taner to write to Turkish government and ask them to remove its "illegal" blockade on Armenia and open the borders that they closed (which by itself was an act of war per Edmond):
Edmond, are you also aware that modern Armenia never recognizes the state borders of Turkey, claims that part of Turkey (a sizable chunk mind you) are "Armenian soil under Turkish invasion"?
Don't you think that itself is an act of war to begin with? Yes, and more so than just closing borders...
By the same token, what if the Turks started to claim Armenia was Turkish soil under Armenian invasion? You can't get anywhere by these claims. You need to wake up and start living a more reasonable life. Only then perhaps, you can have the borders re-opened...
Armenians enjoyed religious freedom to its full extent when Ottoman Turks "rescued" them from the Russian and other "Christian" oppressors. You could try to be a little thankful for that.
This is an Open Response to Mine Isil Tascioglu:
CNN has kindly allowed us to express our opinions and comments about the similarities between Turkey and China. But you and only few others (few Armenians and Greeks as I can tell from their last names ) have exploited this kind gesture to spew your hatred about Turkey. In your case, it is most tragic, as you are a Turk by ethnicity, probably born or naturalized US citizen, probably married and moved back to Turkey unwillingly.
You seemingly are looking for platforms to display your hatred and negative (only) comments. But this is not one of them. I am surprised that CNN had allowed your remarks to be aired here.
I too have been to China ( Bejing and Tian Shen) but not seen any trash on the streets. Every major city in the world have neighborhoods, London and Paris included ( where I visited) where housing, streets and parks need a lot to be desired. You need to explain " they both make posionous material " slur..What kind of statement is this ? Shame on you !!!. China may have birth rate problem but the Government is tryting to do its best to control it, this not a crime. As you may know, there is proverb in Turkish culture; it is called "...spitting onto where you were born..." This perfectly suits you.
I apologize to CNN media management controlling the entries to this blog for I, too, have used this space for personal reasons. But, somebody had to say to Mine " watch your mouth !!!..."
PS: I am a naturalized US citizen, born in Turkey, living in the US for the last 43 years.
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Respond to Kim:
It seems that you do not know the history of the region or you have been led by the Turkish version that does not match the world history.
First of all the land that Armenians claim is in accordance with the treaty of Sevres where the President Wilson of United State of America signed and sealed and made into a law. At the time even the new Turkish government accepted the treaty. This is called the Wilsonian Armenia and we effectively hold the deed to that land. Armenian situation is not like the wild Kurdish demands of land but it has legal merit, we just can't inforce it. Now, even though it was never implemented (due to Ataturk victories and USSR' Stalin) it is still a binding document and has no expiration date and cannot be voided. It has the seal of congress stamped right on it.
This Wilsonian Armenia covers only certain percentage of the historic Armenian lands but nevertheless gives Armenia access to the black sea so the country can grow at a normal rate and prosper, also our historical sacred Mt Ararat is in that land.
In the declaration of Independence of Armenia there is an article that states that Armenian government recognizes the Armenian Genocide committed by Turkey in Anatolia and in Western Armenia (Wilsonian Armenia). This is what gets Turks all bend out of shape and even though Armenian government does not dispute the current Turkish borders, Turks themselves being scared of the future are trying to force the Armenian government to sign a deal that officially will recognize the current borders as legal. Obviously the Armenian government, no matter who is president, cannot go against its own declaration of independence.
Now, that is not all, Turkey has two other preconditions for opening their border with Armenia. They want Armenia to give all the land in Nagorno Karabakh back to Azerbaijan (which would be a suicide of Armenians of Karabakh) and they want a historical commission to dispute the facts of Armenian Genocide.
To put it simply for you, Turkey close border for their crying Azeri cousins and massed troops at the border for invasion (in 1992, thanks to Russians they never entered Armenia). Now Turkey say if you want border open you must give all liberated land back to Azeris, sign document to recognize current illegal Turkish borders and forget about Genocide.
Listen Kim, you have no clue how Armenian lived in Ottoman Empire and have no idea what they went through in their own occupied lands. Look up Hamidian massacres and bloody Sultan. Armenians lives as third or even fourth class citizens (bellow Jews, Greeks, Kurds) but even then they contributed the most to the Ottoman Empire.
Also, there is no such rescue that you talk about. Maybe you mean the mass deportation of the Armenian women, children, and old man from their homes into the safe Syrian deserts where the bones are still being uncovered.
Maybe if you could have look into my grandfathers eyes when he would talk in pain about how him and his older brother got separated at 14 years old and how he ended up escorting screaming women and children escaping without food or even shoes through mountains for three months while being pursued by Turkish soldiers and Kurdish bandits taking pop shots at him until they made it (many did not) to Baghdad. He also recalls the American planes dropping supplies for them once on the way which saved their lives.
I am sorry to say sir but you really need to educate yourself on this issue before making such comments. I suggest you do not look at any Turkish or Armenian sources and go directly to archives of French, Russian, and American for the truth. New York Times has very good archives that covered that era with cries from world leaders to save the Armenians from the full destruction by the Turks and warning to Turks of Repercussions if they do not stop this extermination policy.
The Yale Alumni Chorus traveled to China in 1997 on its very first Tour. The two week trip included 180 singers and covered three cities. Since that first Tour the Chorus has visited almost every Continent. Our Tour last summer was to Cuba. Next summer we will travel to Turkey and perform concerts in Istanbul before moving on to Armenia and Georgia. We will have truly connnected China and Turkey through the power of song.
to Edmond; hey! Edmond! You and your ill- racist ideas can get out of here and get some fresh air may be.People don't want to hear your sick-racist ideas here.Let's make a good thing for yourself and us please!!!Go out, have some fresh air, enjoy the Fall ....
to normal guys here; Please don't take Edmond seriously and DON'T respond him.
The common thing for both countries is the meeting of Presidents of Turkey and China in Ankara. At the moment:.:))
The Turkish-Chinese connection is closer than it appears . Turkic people originated in China and Central Asia. Part of them came to western asia with the Mongols as mercenaries. In Anatolia, they dominated the region politically and linguistically as conquerers, but the predominant gene pool is unlikely to be pure Turkic, but rather a mixture of Turkic and the original Anatolian populations. The Turkic tribes have lived in coexistence with the Chinese for thousands of years, much longer than their history in western Asia. Indeed a large part of turkic people have intermingled with Chinese. Between 200 to 500AD, northern China was dominated by states with turkic origins leading to mass migration of the original chinese population in northern China to southern China. Many of the royal families were of turkic origin. Later on during the Tang empire (7th to 9th centuries) which stretched deeper into central asia than modern China, Turkic people were part of the Chinese society and at one stage ursurped imperial power (An Lushan). On the eve of Ghengis Khan, the northern Chinese Liao dynasty was a sinised Turkic kingdom, also called Khitan and Kara Khitan, origin of the word Cathay.
The descendants of these turkic people are modern day Chinese. Those who have not intermingled with Chinese have intermingled with other central Asian populations, and in the west with Anatolian populations. It is possible that after 2000 years, the majority of the turkic people is now assimilated into the Chinese nation. Modern Turks from the Republic of Turkey are probably the least Turkic. Those in Central Asian states are mixed with persians, mongols and other local peoples and the Uighurs are likely to have considerable Han Chinese genes.
China's airforce just finished participating in the annual "Anatolian Eagle" mock dogfights exercises in Turkey.
On the side note, in the last Anatolian Eagle event Israel was for the first time refused participation by Turkey and US, in response did not attend as well.
Chinese–Turkish relations are foreign relations between the People's Republic of China and Turkey. Turkey recognized the PRC on 5 August 1971. Turkey pursues One-China policy and recognizes the PRC as the sole legal representative of China. The PRC has an embassy in Ankara, and a consulate–general in Istanbul. Turkey has an embassy in Beijing and 2 consulates–general in Hong Kong and Shanghai. However, recently, because of China's recent conflicts with Turkic Uyghur separatists, relations have at times been strained.
maybe connection comes from the history as turks was once neighbor china in central asia and still lots of roots you can see in central asia ...
They borh have a long history.And Turkey has something to do with Xiongnu,which lived in ancient China and was against Han Dynasty.
I've lived in both China and Turkey. As a Chinese living in Turkey, I couldn't help but feel amazed by the huge number of similarities between these 2 countries. Turkey felt like a home away from home to me. Culturally, we are both very collectivisitc. Like the Chinese, the Turks have strong connections with their families and social groups. The elderly are to be respected and taken care of. Another funny thing is rules are made to be broken in both countries. People just find their ways around. Hospitality is another common point. In China, guests are treated like kings and queens. It's the same in Turkey, sometimes in a more casual manner with the amount of warmth the Turks extend to their guests is just heartwarming.
Here's a fun connection. China and Turkey are both in the top 10 of countries blocking access to websites. China is censoring Google, Turkey is censoring Youtube, tried blocking IMDB and they will be blocking Facebook soon. (http://tinyurl.com/facebookbanturkey)
I think the Great Wall of China is a prominent connecter between China and Turkey because it was built to serve as a defensive barrier against the nomads, especially the Turkish tribes..
Both countries share a very similar past-time game. In Turkey, the generally 4-player game is called Okey. And in China, everyone loves Mahjong. Both games are very popular even within their communities abroad.
the two countries are economic,political developed,influences at ASIA,THE WORLD.
Turkish tribes lost war with China about 1000 years ago, and moved to Middle East. Hundreds of years later they destroyed Byzantine Empire and moved to Europe.
Both countries leaders just agreed on using own currencies in billateral trade.....the meeting between them has not finished yet.
Also they said the construction of the railway from Peking to Istanbul are on schedule and with current trade volume between China-Turkey being 17 billion dollars both leaders presented their ambitions to increase this amount towards 50 billion $ for 2015, 100 billion $ by 2020.
tea! ( chai=chinese, çay=turkish):
essential common drink for both cultures
used to be an insence for welcoming the guests in both cultures
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